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Legislative Counsel Committee, co-chaired by Merkley, closing access to Oregon law???

by: petrichor

Sun Apr 20, 2008 at 14:07:41 PM PDT


(Quickly becoming a national story... - promoted by torridjoe)

Now this is a strange story picked up by bojack, quoting most of the post (sorry jack, i'm in a hurry:

Don't you Dare Post our Laws:

A group of state legislators called the "Oregon Legislative Counsel Committee" is now threatening to sue some folks who have posted the full text of the Oregon Revised Statutes on the internet. Of all the things that the state would claim copyright in, they're now prohibiting people from publishing the law itself! ...

And guess who the co-chair of that committee is? Jeff Merkley!

Other members: Kate Brown and Greg Macpherson!

This is what we get from the Democratic establishment in this state. 

So no one has to go though the extended entry, here is the nut:

justia.com and public.resource.org post the entire oregon revised statutes on their site and got a cease and disist letter from the oregon legislative council committee, which is co-chaired by jeff merkley and peter courtney. however, Thomson West a large legal information services company has published an annotated copy of the ORS (which sells for $460) and the council committee has explicitly stated that they will not send a cease and desist letter his way. The cease and desist letter demands that either they remove the ORS from their sight, or pay a commercial licencing fee for the right to publish, which costs $30k for two years.

So basically, not ony is jeff merkley's legislative council committee going after websites that offer easy, open, free access to public documents and resources, but they are letting a commercial company get away scot free for doing the same thing.

By now you're probably wondering, "aren't laws public domain"? The answer is "yes", of course, they are, merkley's committee is not asserting copyrigt over the legal text itself; the key here is some very legal trickery, obviously laws must be public domain, but the lcc is asserting copyright over the added material, however, in the format that the statutes are available, the statutes are tied to the added material. From Carl Malamud of public.resource.org...

Oregon claims they are only asserting copyright on the added matter. However, they have glued the added matter so tightly on the underlying statutes that the private wrapper around the public package are inseparable. You can't get one without the other.

petrichor :: Legislative Counsel Committee, co-chaired by Merkley, closing access to Oregon law???

look, obviously i am a novick supporter, and as far as we know, this incedent is not based on a direct action of merkley (though he may have been involved in setting the agenda; which is to collect licencing fees from publishers), but open access to public documents is one of my key issues and merkley is probably the highest profile politician who is connected to this, so putting the spotlight on his role as co-chair of the committee might actual put pressure on someone to fix this. what "this" is, right, is an embarrassment to the state of oregon.  since jeff merkley is co-chair of the committee it would behoove him to address the issue.  why is oregon being the most aggressive state when it comes to controlling republishing of its statutes? shouldnt oregon be on the forefront of legal and government transparancey? If the problem is not the republishing of the laws, bt the republishing of the added material, why is it not possible to ge the laws without the added material?

More coverage below...

The cease and disist letter was sent by legal council dexter johnson on behalf of the comittee to justia.com. and public.resource.org, but the best synopsis i could find was on boingboing, quoting public.resource archivist Carl Malamud:

The State of Oregon is sending out cease and desist letters to sites like Justia and Public.Resource.Org that have been posting copies of Oregon laws, known as the Oregon Revised Statutes.

We've sent Oregon back two letters. The first reviews the law and explains to the Legislative Counsel why their assertion of copyright over the state statutes is particularly weak, from both a common law perspective and from their own enabling legislation.

The position of the Legislative Counsel is that their public access obligations have been fulfilled by their web site. However, their web site has over 500,000 HTML errors, does not meet Section 508 accessibility requirements, has no metadata, as our second letter points out.

Particularly galling is the fact that Thomson West has also made a copy of these statutes and has done so without a commercial license, but the Legislative Counsel explicitly told Tim Stanley of Justia that they weren't going to send cease and desist letters to West. Evidently, it is much easier to pick on the little guys.

Oregon is not unique in asserting copyright over state law, but they are definitely one of the more aggressive in this kind of FUD campaign. Justia and Public.Resource.Org have decided this is an important issue to resolve and we're going to hold firm on this. Anybody else who is making a mirror of the Oregon law should drop me a line and let me know.


More coverage from online media daily:

    Oregon Claims State Laws Deserve Protection Against Piracy
    by Wendy Davis, Friday, Apr 18, 2008 7:00 AM ET
    It's not just movie studios and record companies that complain about online piracy. The state of Oregon is now griping that Web companies infringe its copyright by posting state laws online
 

the washington times:

Oregon claims state law copyrighted

By Kara Rowland
April 19, 2008

Lawyers for Oregon are accusing a legal publisher of breaking the law for posting the state code on its Web site. 

the citizen media law project:

Just last week, I was ruminating on the viability of state claims of copyright in government records. At the time, I was pretty confident that a state wouldn't be crazy enough to claim copyright in its own statutes, both because caselaw suggests this would be legally invalid and because it would be shoddy public policy. Now, the Legislative Counsel Committee of the State of Oregon has sent a cease-and-desist letter to Justia, a free online resource for judicial decisions and statutes, claiming that Justia's posting of the Oregon Revised Statutes violates its copyright. The Committee's claim is not as outlandish as it initially sounds, but it is still quite problematic.

 ars technica:

The State of Oregon takes exception to Web sites that republish the state's Revised Statutes in full, claiming that the statutes contain copyrighted information in the republication causes the state to lose money it needs to continue putting out the official version of the statutes. Oregon's Legislative Counsel, Dexter Johnson, has therefore requested that legal information site Justia remove the information or (preferably) take out a paid license from the state.

locally, the only conerage i can find comes from the blog oregon legal research, which offers a very cautious wait-and-see defense of the legislative committe. if this were my web site, i might go ahead and post the statues myself to see what merkley and his committee have to say about it. ;)

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thanks for promoting this (0.00 / 0)
anyone who wants to repost this diary anywhere else has my total permission. i can't right now because i am too busy and my arms hurt.

thanks for writing it (0.00 / 0)
did you do some of the googling on the reach of the story, or was that Bojack?

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i did all the reasearch (0.00 / 0)
beyond what was in the quoted first paragraph.

mostly i just followed the story blog to blog. there is a pretty strong network of blogs that criss-cross across public domain and copyrighting issues, and i googled to verify jack bogs claims. it was a complete fluke that i saw a link to that story on bojack via the leftyblogs rss feed, ironically, when i was over at blue oregon testing to see if i was still unable to post comments last night.

i slept on it because i didn't have time to investigate more, and i thought it might not be an issue since the parties that received the cease-and-desist implied they were working with dexter johnson to fix it. after doing more reading though, three facts stood out that made me think it was worthy:

1) that there is an acknowledged double standard
2) that oregon appears to be known for a very aggressive stance, and for pushing that stance to other states.
3) that the copyright statement on oregon.gov, by the reading of several legal sights, did not convey the level of protection that was reflected in the c and d letter.

now, #2 is just embarrassing which is enough in itself, but #1 makes it ethically suspect, and #3 makes it legally suspect. it's just ridiculous that either by intention, incompetence, or a little of both the oregon legislative council committee has presented a public domain resource that is inextractable from copyrighted material that enmeshes it. it just comes off as clumsy information hording.


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great, thanks (0.00 / 0)
it wasn't clear at first, but that's probably my issue. I think you've done a pretty sweet job. I am concerned about the national character of the stories, in the "transparency community." It looks bad, with or without Merkley. Let's start taking Peter Courtney to task for it as well, for example.  

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this is just plain stupid (0.00 / 0)
I'm sure it wasn't Merkley's idea to adopt this position, but it's typical of his go-along approach to public policy that he did not take steps to stop it.


right on (0.00 / 0)
I have no idea what his involvement is specifically, but when you co-chair the committee, you're responsible at least in part.  

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honestly (0.00 / 0)
i have no idea whose cuckoo idea this was, but why not merkley? actually, it's such a cuckoo idea i would think it came from republicans, but why wouldn't the dems reform it as soon as possible, and even if they were not going to reform it, why would they go one step further and start sending out c and d letters???

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same counsel's office (0.00 / 0)
that decided a bill asking VOTERS to decide whether to raise taxes was a tax-raising bill in itself...! Which, with Merkley's decision to accept it, is why Healthy Kids failed.

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