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Medical Cannabis and Kevin Mannix

by: friedaMae

Thu Jul 26, 2007 at 09:24:21 AM PDT


(I'm promoting this late, because this week a federal amendment came up, to block funding for the DEA to prosecute med-marijuana crimes in states where it was legal. The bill failed, but I wanted to note that all four Democratic Congresspeople from Oregon voted for it. Republican Greg Walden? Hah. Nice going, Dems of Oregon. - promoted by torridjoe)

Kevin Mannix has filed an initiative to "replace" the current OMMA (oregon medical marijuana act) that was voted in by the people for the sick, ill, hurting and dying in 1998.
His initiative will replace naturally grown cannabis with pharmaceutical synthetics such as marinol and cesamet.  the burden to provide these prescription drugs to those who have qualifying conditions will fall on YOU,  the tax-payer.  This WILL increase tax-payers burden by approx. $1000.00 per month per patient X's 15,000-20,000 .  This will be an expenditure EVERY MONTH/every YEAR.  Can you afford this?  Can Oregon afford this?

The health care in this state is an abomination already and Mannix is driven to INCREASE the burden and worsen the problem.
As near as I can tell, the cannabis prohibition debt for EVERY single Oregon resident is approximately $25,000.00 and growing.  This debt will be inherited by your children and grand-children. 

it seems fairly clear to me who has the bucks behind this.  pharmaceutical companies do know cannabis works and are but one group with a lot of money that will not stand by while a lowly plant replace profits.  i know, personally 2 OMMA participants that were able to drop 300 pain pills between the 2 of them and they not only are more alert but they feel better, NOT stupified.

Cannabis prohibition hurts the already sick and injured people.  Cannabis prohibition hurts the tax-payer a lot and to the tune of several BILLION every year without consideration of housing prisoners for simple, non-violent cannabis convictions. 

The medical cannabis community urges folks to educate themselves about this most cost effective, efficacious herbal medical therapy.  Being allowed to produce ones own medicine actually REDUCES tax-payer burdens and indeed the program is “self-funding” taking no money from the general fund.  In fact, in 2005 the state legislature raided the OMMP (Oregon medical marijuana program) of its excess monies to the tune of nearly 1MILLION dollars that was designated to be used for the program to improve its functionality.
(side note: if cannabis were legalized, taxed and regulated the state of Oregon coffers WOULD realize MILLIONS in REVENUE instead of expenditures on a failed cannabis prohibition)

However, we need, once again, your help to preserve this program for Oregon’s most ill, most poor and least capable of fighting this kind of political attack.  Every year the opposition who are pandered by pharmaceutical companies, law enforcement, beer/wine industries, drug testing manufacturers, drug and alcohol rehab facilities and more, use fear (good old fashioned reefer madness) to keep the public, you and me afraid of this herb.

Every legislative session there are very harmful bills introduced to chip away at an otherwise most successful program.
Cannabis activists are most often times told by others “well, what’s your problem, isn’t it already legal?”  The answer, of course, is “yes”.  What the public does not understand is the constant battle to keep it alive.  You know when law-makers don’t like the “peoples will” they hack away at the laws we pass in legislative session, changing the laws to what they wanted to begin with.  This is precisely what has happened to OMMA.
The people who need and use the OMMA are too sick and in too many cases terminal and are essentially defenseless.  How proud the opponents of this medicinal therapy must be to put sick people on the defense as if they had no other worries and the physical abilities and energy to fight them. 

How long will we allow and tolerate this cruel, apathetic treatment of the defenseless?  This is not about drug use and abuse it’s about health care, prevention and doing what is right and fighting against what’s wrong, right here in Oregon

friedaMae :: Medical Cannabis and Kevin Mannix
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it's not federally legal (0.00 / 0)
and some DAs in MM states have disregarded the will of those voters and prosecuted MM providers on federal charges.

Great post, though. Mannix backing another loser...


Effectiveness issues (4.00 / 1)
It's my understanding that the synthetic forms of the relevant drug in cannibas used to treat vomiting aren't as effective as smoking the marijuana.

This could have changed by now--it has been a few years since I read the articles.


Hearing the people (0.00 / 0)
Thank you for that great post! I wish I could climb a mountain and let everyone know what's going on here...enough already with the lies and misinformation about cannabis and it's history and proven record of being safe effective medicine.
My mountain will be the voting booth. I urge everyone to climb that mountain and let your voice be heard. Politicians are supposed to carry out the will of the people not systematically try to destroy the very law WE said we wanted and needed.
Again thank you so much for that thought provoking post.

Cannabis: The contentious issue's and the Truth (0.00 / 0)
TJ, you are correct.  Cannabis is still federally unrecognized as an effective medicinal therapy and sadly, remains illegal.
One important thing that may not be well known is that the federal government isolated THC away from the whole cannabis plant and  "rescheduled" THC to allow BigPharmaCo's to make synthetic medicines to sell for profit.  The forcing/funneling of sick people into the synthetic drug industry has begun with Mannix's Initiative, imho.
The effects from THC are what most folks seem concerned about.  THC is also one of the more than 400 compounds that cause cancer cells/tumors to shrink because the blood flow/oxygen to the tumor is blocked, resulting in starvation of the cancer cells/tumors.  Scientists have just recently, in fact, added colon cancer to the growing list of diseases that cannabis therapy may be useful for especially and potentially as a preventative.  lung cancer is another, not to mention the cream made from cannabis that seems to combat skin allergies.
Oregonians have, historically, not been intimidated by federal intervention.  "Death with Dignity" is one most recent instances I can recall.  I believe Oregonians should be allowed to LIVE with dignity as well. 
Carla, you are also correct.  Folks who have used the synthetic pharmaceutical derivatives DO NOT report the same results as one experiences from the whole, natural plant.  In fact they report negative side effects much the same as many do from the "common pharmaceutical pool" of chemical medicines. 
One unanticipated benefit from using cannabis medicine in its whole and natural form is the ability to self titrate.  that means it is not a "one size fits all" standardized dose as it is with Marinol and other pharmaceuticals.  the patient in this case can use as much as is needed as often as needed without overdosing.

the best approach here IMO (0.00 / 0)
is to paint Mannix as a tool of Pharma, as friedaMae alludes in her(?) previous comment. What this really has to do with is moving the medical treatment protocol away from something that Pharma does not make money from, to something that does. It's not about safety, it's about MONEY, as usual.


Mannix as a tool (of Pharma) (0.00 / 0)
which is entirely correct.  it shouldn't be too hard, given how negatively Oregonians view Kevin Mannix these days.  Hell, we just have to tie *him* to the campaign, and it'll probably lose.

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a great photo(shop job) (0.00 / 0)
and creepy too!



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There ya go (0.00 / 0)
that "photo shop job" says it.
Thanks for the chuckle!

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credit where it's due (0.00 / 0)
i guess i should say that i didn't make the photo, and that it turned up using a "google image" search for "Kevin Mannix."  It's hosted on Kari's MandateMedia site, but i couldn't discern from which post, so i couldn't link directly to the source post.  ((don't want to take credit for something that's not mine...))

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An all out National assualt against the sick and dying by the DEA (0.00 / 0)
The following does not even begin to touch the tip of the iceberg.  I cannot stress enough how much we need everyone’s involvement to help right a very serious wrong.  It is, if nothing else, an effort towards fiscal responsibility with regards to the billions of TAX-PAYER dollars wasted on cannabis prohibition and the War on Drugs.

Guest Opinion: DEA thwarts Montana's medical marijuana law
By ROBIN C. PROSSER
Five years ago, I starved myself to bring attention to the plight of the sick in Montana that need medical marijuana. Two years later, I worked hard on the campaign for our state medical marijuana initiative, which passed with more support than any other.

http://www.billingsg...

The federal government faces multi-trillion dollar budget deficits and warns of reductions in social services, education, and the environment. The federal anti-drug budget, however, will increase by 4.7% this fiscal year to $12.468 billion dollars.

http://www.efficacy-...

http://www.efficacy-...

Feature: Minor Gains in Bid to Get Congress to Block Federal Raids on Medical Marijuana Patients, Providers
  The House of Representatives Wednesday night voted down the Hinchey-Rohrabacher amendment to the Justice-Commerce-Science appropriations bill. The amendment would have barred the Justice Department from using federal funds to target medical marijuana patients and providers in the 12 states where it is currently legal.

The vote came only hours after DEA agents upped the ante in its battle against medical marijuana in California by raiding 10 dispensaries in the Los Angeles area. And it came only a few days after the DEA opened a new battlefront in its war by sending letters to dispensary landlords threatening them with seizure of their properties or even criminal charges if they continue to rent to dispensaries. 

http://stopthedrugwa...

one solution:
http://www.leap.cc/c...
LEAP (Law Enforcement Against Prohibition)

For Immediate Release: July 25th, 2007

Los Angeles City Council Votes to End Federal DEA Medical Marijuana Raids

Los Angeles, CA -- As the Los Angeles City Council voted today to move forward with the regulation of medical cannabis (marijuana) dispensaries, federal Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) agents were conducting raids on at least 6 dispensaries in the greater Los Angeles area. The Council approved the first reading today of a moratorium on new dispensaries in the city, with final approval expected within a week. The moratorium will give the city time to draft regulations that would establish a permit process and guidelines for providers of medical marijuana. The Council also passed a resolution in support of a vote in Congress scheduled to occur today that would deny funding to the U.S. Department of Justice, and the DEA, for enforcement against medical marijuana patients and providers.

http://www.safeacces...

Stories you never hear on MAINSTREAM News:

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Where is Oregon's lawmaker's help and support? 

Marijuana: Mendocino County Supervisors Say Legalize It
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from Drug War Chronicle, Issue #489, 6/8/07

County supervisors in Mendocino County, California, part of the state's marijuana growing "Emerald Triangle," voted Wednesday to send lawmakers a letter urging them to legalize marijuana. The move is a belated response to Proposition G, a voter-approved initiative passed six years ago.

"Whether you love marijuana or hate marijuana, you can agree it's time for a change," said Supervisor John Pinches, who took part in a 4-1 board vote Tuesday in support of a letter asking lawmakers to legalize marijuana.

http://stopthedrugwa...

When is enough, enough?????


Shoe's on the other foot, eh? (0.50 / 2)
"You know when law-makers don’t like the “peoples will” they hack away at the laws we pass in legislative session, changing the laws to what they wanted to begin with.  This is precisely what has happened to OMMA."

Tough luck about "the people's will" on M37, M36, but don't mess around with "peoples will" regarding medical cannabis?

Cannabis chickens coming home to roost, methinks.


you're mistaken (0.00 / 0)
the people's will isn't underminded in either 36 or 37. Civil unions aren't marriage; and compensation is enshrined in the fix to 37.

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Effective Medical Marijuana (0.00 / 0)
If people want an effective medical marijuana law, they need to support legislation that would make a clear distinction between legal medical marijuana and illegal recreational use.  The problem with the current law is that it was written by people who do not respect this difference, and thus the law provides a lot of coverage to people who have no medical use for marijuana.  I'm in a position where I read a lot of police reports and every serious drug dealer I've come across has claimed "medical marijuana" when busted for activities demonstrably having nothing to do with medicine.  This gives medical marijuana a bad name.

Want to fix it?  That's easy enough - eliminate the "affirmative defense" of needing marijuana for a medical condition, despite not having a card, require that medical grows be at the same location as the person needing the medical marijuana, and require accounting for the plants and criminal background checks for both the users and growers.  Those changes would make it a true medical marijuana law, rather than a cover story for drug dealers.

Marty


so what if they claim it? (0.00 / 0)
If they don't have the card, it isn't legal.

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Card (0.00 / 0)
Actually, if you read the law, you'll see that you don't have to have the card to claim the defense of medical necessity.  It's a major problem.

OMMP and the Affirmative Defense (0.00 / 0)
You are correct, it is a major problem because patients (OMMP participants) CANNOT enjoy the Affirmative Defense in court.  Those who are uncarded and growing, medical or not, get it. This is how I read the law.

Patients are PREVENTED from telling the truth about how they ended up in court in the first place.
You see there are "traps" within the OMMA now.
Plant size restrictions allow for literal "accidental non-compliance". 
via SB1085 ('05 session) patients did get an increase from 3 oz usable medicine to 24 0z.
indeed the plant numbers dropped from 7 any size, 3 mature (in flower) and 4 immature (no visible flowers) to 6 mature (12" wide and 12" tall and above)and 18 immature (under 12"tall, 12" wide and without visible flowers).  This becomes a problem for sick folks.  Cannabis is a weed.  It can grow up to 4" in a single night.  If you are too ill and cannot, for a day or 2 tend to your plants, you can easily exceed, without intent, compliance.  If you happen to get a "knock and talk" from law enforcement then you are an automatic felon without the ability to explain in court why (no AD).  This law precipitates criminals without that/those person(s) ever entertaining criminal intent. thus bumping up the stats for drug busts and abuse factors.
I'm not saying this is rampant.  I am saying this is wrong.
The intent for the increase in allowable usable medicines and increased plant numbers was to negate the need for the affirmative defense.  But if one innocent person falls through the various cracks inadvertently, that is one too many.

The OMMP list of qualifying conditions are very restrictive, btw, and it is not easy to "get a card".


OMMP and Affirmative Defense (0.00 / 0)
Well, one approach to remedy the "grow" problem is simply to have the state grow it, as is being contemplated in NM.  That way, you can get it without the possibility of an "accidental overgrow".  Alternatively, require that it be grown in a secure location outside of the home - a "public plot" - accessible to law enforcement, who could then simply "weed out" overgrows.  By allowing home grows, however, the law invariably leads to abuse by people who have no legitimate need.

Regarding the ease of access issue, it's pretty clear that certain physicians simply won't follow the law because of their own personal beliefs.  Consider the case of Dr. Leveque, who routinely provided authorizations for patients that he never personally examined.

I don't fault the initiative proponents for wanting medical marijuana and taking action to get it, as it was clear that the legislature wasn't going to act.  However, as with Measure 37, when partisans write petitions that pass, the legislature should take the necessary steps to fix drafting problems while respecting the central tenets of the petition.

Marty


addressing the grow problem (0.00 / 0)
it could also be statutorily changed to remove the 12" rule during legislation.

regarding your suggestion that has the State producing medicines for OMMP, see: SB767 from this last session.  this bill would have done that, but was not even given a hearing.  it was a pilot project.  it would have improved the access issue for patients.
in NM's case they originally were NOT going to have personal gardens, in the original bill the state would be the producer.  i cant find information explaining why it was changed from state gardens to personal just yet.

you are correct, imho, M37 has had similar treatment.  maybe if we all got together???............


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What is he smoking? LTE published in the Oregonian (0.00 / 0)
The Oregonian

Sunday, August 5

What is he smoking?

Kevin Mannix has been smoking something strong if he thinks repealing the Oregon Medical Marijuana Act is part of fighting crime (Letters, July 26).

There are 17,000 patients registered in this program by more than 2,500 Oregon physicians. Participation in the program is growing because natural marijuana is superior for some patients to the alternative prescription drug choices.

Mannix's Initiative 104 falsely claims to "replace" marijuana with Marinol, a synthetic form of THC. But the 2,500 doctors who qualify patients for the marijuana program already could prescribe Marinol. They don't, because it doesn't work very well and is extremely expensive, sometimes more than $1,000 a month.

Mannix would force 17,000 patients to take a medicine they don't want and force taxpayers to pay for it. If there is any money left over for law enforcement after this boondoggle, police will have to spend it arresting and prosecuting the thousands of patients who won't quit taking a medicine that works. Voters should reject this misguided initiative.

JOHN SAJO Director, Voter Power Southeast Portland

http://www.oregonliv...

www.voterpower.org
www.myspace.com/voterpower


Not fooled by Mannix. LTE published in the Oregonian (0.00 / 0)
The Oregonian

Not fooled by Mannix plan

July 30, 2007

Politicians must love billion-dollar boondoggles because they can't help proposing them. Republican Kevin Mannix's plan to recriminalize medical marijuana and provide a taxpayer handout to the pharmaceutical industry could easily cost our state millions upon millions of dollars.

His so-called Oregon Crimefighting Act (Letters, July 26) would not reduce crime by making thousands of sick and disabled patients felons. Patients use medical marijuana to help them retain their sight despite their glaucoma and to help them survive through chemotherapy treatments.

Mannix wants to force hard-working Oregonians to shell out their money to the pharmaceutical industry for drugs that patients don't even want. Please don't be fooled by yet another Republican boondoggle. Don't support Initiative Petition 104.

ANTHONY JOHNSON
Political director, Voter Power
Southeast Portland

http://www.oregonliv...

www.voterpower.org
www.myspace.com/voterpower


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