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PDA Nat'l Backs Kimmerly, Endorsement Process

by: torridjoe

Mon Jan 21, 2008 at 17:00:00 PM PST


Perhaps you've read of the kerfuffle so wrenchingly presented late Friday by Kari Chisholm of Blue Oregon, media consultant who counts Jeff Merkley's Senate campaign among his clientele. Chisholm, acting on behalf of the Merkley campaign, found outrage in an email sent by Liz Kimmerly of the Novick campaign, inviting candidates to a meeting of Oregon members of the Progressive Democrats of America. Acting as state coordinator for the state on behalf of PDA, Kimmerly's job was to organize Oregonians by Congressional District into chapters, which could then (obviously) attempt to leverage their membership into influence on Oregon politicians.

Which is what she apparently did, beginning with a Portland chapter. In addition, given the high interest of the Senate campaign (including her own, certainly), she set in motion a process of local endorsement to be used as a recommendation for national endorsement.

That's been enough for the narrow cadre of bloggers associated with, paid by, or otherwise connected to the Merkley campaign to declare a major scandal involving misconduct and conflict of interest. All weekend, Scythes for Jeff have called for Kimmerly's head, a statement of some kind from the Novick campaign, and general weeping for the virtue and chastity of Oregon PDA, not to mention the national organization.

And all weekend long I kept thinking, if the circumstances surrounding Kimmerly's actions in starting Oregon PDA and trying to hold an endorsement represent scandalous wrongdoing or inappropriate conflict, wouldn't it be the PDA that was going to complain loudest? After all, the bleating for heads to roll got pretty loud at the #1 statewide political blog. If they felt aggrieved, surely they would take matters into their own hands and determine what level of involvement for a campaign senior staffer is appropriate or not. But since this was dropped--coincidentally?--on a Friday evening before a holiday, I wasn't sure how long it might take for PDA to say their piece.

Now we don't have to wait. The statement here, discussed below. {more}

torridjoe :: PDA Nat'l Backs Kimmerly, Endorsement Process
The meeting of the state's first chapter showed real growth since its inception in late 2007, bringing together this month 45 PDA members from the Portland area, including Martha Perez, an exciting young Latina activist who is running for City Council, and local students, excited about organizing.

State Coordinator Liz Kimmerly explains, "The first step for PDA Oregon is for us to build chapters in congressional districts throughout the state. These chapters, working with PDA Congressional District point people, will begin to develop relationships with representatives' district offices to lobby for the PDA's Progressive Legislative Agenda, as well as to create a presence for progressives within the state Democratic party and to encourage new members from constituencies to join this effort to bring forth a progressive governing majority in U.S. Congress."

Kimmerly comes to Oregon from Los Angeles, California, where she had been active in PDA's local chapter-a powerful force in mobilizing the L.A. progressive community. Upon moving to Oregon, Kimmerly, who had seen the impact of PDA's inside-outside strategy in California's Democratic Party politics and on the streets, set about organizing PDA members in her new home state.

Over several months, she participated in PDA National conference calls for New State organizing and has been forming a team with well-known progressive activist Moses Ross and others, which will be looking for leaders among the PDA base to form chapters in a wide range of Congressional Districts in Oregon.

Here's what the national assocation is telling us:

  • Liz Kimmerly is our state coordinator, yes.
  • Although we know she works for Novick for Senate, we care so little about the implications that it's not even worth mentioning.
  • Liz Kimmerly has an established, trusting relationship with PDA.
  • The first set of duties for a coordinator according to Kimmerly is to set up chapters in Congressional Districts (like, Portland). We're going to print her direct quote on the duties of a State Coordinator, by way of agreement.
  • The first state chapter was formed in late 2007.
  • Over several months, Kimmerly worked in partnership with well-known Democrat Moses Ross in Oregon.
  • Kimmerly and Ross will be looking for leaders for the chapters from among PDA membership.

The Merkley group are premising their concern trolling predominantly on the inherent conflict of interest between Liz Kimmerly, State Coordinator PDA, and Liz Kimmerly, Novick for Senate. If this were a conflict of interest to PDA, by God you'd think they'd mention it rather than talking blithely about what a great job Liz is doing organizing for them, West and East. That doesn't sound like how you'd describe a rogue volunteer, does it? It actually sounds like they think she's an...asset. As for her simultaneous role with Novick, the silence speaks volumes.

More....

One of the Portland chapter's first initiatives was to come out to support PDA Advisory Board Member Jeff Cohen in his tour through American cities with former U.N. weapons inspector Scott Ritter at Portland's Lincoln High School, discussing the effect of the media on the U.S. occupation of Iraq.

At the event, Progressive Challenge 2008 cards with information about PDA and printed with the Progressive Agenda were distributed to the audience, who were encouraged to get involved with PDA Oregon activities.

At Saturday's Portland meeting, in addition to discussing Progressive Challenge 2008 and Oregon's upcoming presidential primary and encouraging chapter participants to join both PDA's Issue Organizing Teams and the training sessions on Congressional lobbying, chapter members reflected upon the opportunities for the PDA Portland chapter to weigh in on the 2008 campaigns, most notably the race for Oregon's Senate seat.

Moses Ross apprised members of the process by which a local chapter's endorsement can be referred to the PDA National team for consideration, but the chapter membership was ambivalent about whether an endorsement vote was important. Each major candidate was represented at the meeting, but an endorsement was tabled until next month's meeting. At the February meeting, irrespective of whether the chapter chooses to vote to endorse any candidate, members will be able to engage in a full discussion with each contender about their positions on the PDA issues. That discussion will be facilitated by Moses Ross.

Once again, a quick rundown of what this passage tells us:

  • There was other stuff planned for that meeting Saturday; it wasn't a quickie quiet meeting planned for an endorsement. In fact, as far as the national is concerned, that WAS the reason for the meeting, and their first order of business after setting up.
  • At that meeting, there was discussion about doing an endorsement for consideration by the national. Moses Ross apprised everyone of the rules, not Liz Kimmerly.
  • Apparently, some people there didn't want to start that process. And that was...OK! Since it's a nice open, democratic thing we do, the interview will be next month instead, and even then it's an open question as to whether the chapter will make an endorsement.
  • Moses Ross will run that process if and when it happens.
If the first part of the outrage is the supposed conflict of interest, the other part is Kimmerly's supposed hijacking of the endorsement process, making a quick and secret job of it.

And as with the question of conflict, if by PDA's standards there was misconduct worth mentioning, sanctions worth considering, or organizational changes necessary...where is it? It seems instead that the national is saying that since both major campaigns were represented, if the assembled at the meeting had WANTED to go forward, that wouldn't have been a problem. It wasn't PDA that stopped them according to this statement; it was "member ambivalence." Viva ambivalence! But hey, even if they put it off, an endorsement seems fine with them. Even--and this is key--an endorsement generated by a chapter in which Moses Ross and Liz Kimmerly are intimately involved, especially Ross when it comes to managing the details.

When Portlandia had her conversation with Jeff Merkley at a cocktail party and reported what his answers were to her questions, the same people who spent this weekend calling for blood were barely able to acknowledge the conversation MIGHT have taken place. Her account was fully questioned and denied, spun and discounted--despite her appeal to have anyone try to correct the record. No correction ever came, and at least one of Merkley's answers have since been confirmed by traditional media source.

Compare that to this: a paid media consultant to Merkley writes a highly conclusatory column that invokes the name of the Executive Director of PDA in order to cast a negative pall on what he (Chisholm) claims are conflicts of interest and misconduct. Those who counseled for patience and some kind of response--not from Novick, who appears to have had no personal involvement in any of it--but from PDA national, who would in theory be the aggrieved party, now appear to be vindicated. Their message clearly is: nothing to see here folks, move along.

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Is this an email that Liz wrote and sent via an email blast... (0.00 / 0)
...through the PDA email system?

I have yet to go through it entirely, but some glaring inaccuracies and dubious claims of what occurred in the Saturday meeting are already glaring in it.

It also does nothing to address the conflict-of-interest issues her actions in all this which still exist.

cheers,

Mitch Gore


Correction (0.00 / 0)
This appears to be a webpage post not an email blast. So who wrote that post on the PDA web page, so who wrote that post TJ?

Could it be Liz Kimmerly?

If not who?

How did it get posted?

How does it address the problems that have been raised at all?

cheers,

Mitch Gore


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take a breath (0.00 / 0)
it was an email blast, which was then posted on the web page as an annoucement, here is the tag line from the email:

In solidarity,

Diane Shamis

National Field Coordinator

Progressive Democrats of America

an email and phone number were included but i am not about to post them here, since i am not sure they are supposed to be exposed to the raw internets...

ah, here is a contact link, look for the name Diane Shamis as noted above.

why don't you join PDA so you can get these emails yourself? it's not that hard--even with all those scary gatekeepers! (if you just believe in yourself you can be the keymaster)


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I did join (0.00 / 0)
and the only email I have gotten is the one telling me the state corordinator (Liz) will contact me.

cheers,

Mitch Gore


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when did you join? (0.00 / 0)
i don't know where diane shamis was, or when, but her contact page says she's in maryland, so...

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I joined earlier today (0.00 / 0)
Before the posting on the PDA website. Diane being in MD is kinda of the point. It is also worth noting that anyone who joins with an Oregon state field has their information forwarded to Liz directly. Which can allow for easy gaming of any process. Which is  why her being involved was and still is a clear conflict of interest.

cheers,

Mitch Gore


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So Diane Shamis was at the meeting? (0.00 / 0)
Or did she post/blast somethign out by Liz as a PDA newsletter?

cheers,

Mitch Gore


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Please prove this... (0.00 / 0)
Although we know she works for Novick for Senate, we care so little about the implications that it's not even worth mentioning.

No where does the article mention her affiliation to Novick, which is the crux of the conflict of interest.

Check out my Oregon politics blog at Forward Oregon


exactly (0.00 / 0)
so if they don't care, why should you?

[ Parent ]
Merkley and the attack dogs (0.00 / 0)
Who better to teach these fawning idiots how to fight dirty than the man who made the call to climb into the mud with Karen Minnis?  Win at all costs, right, fellas?

What the Heck, TJ? (0.00 / 0)
....if the circumstances surrounding Kimmerly's actions in starting Oregon PDA and trying to hold an endorsement represent scandalous wrongdoing or inappropriate conflict, wouldn't it be the PDA that was going to complain loudest? .............. I wasn't sure how long it might take for PDA to say their piece.

Now we don't have to wait. The statement here, discussed below. {more}

Geeze TJ, hope you're not serious, but I'm guessing that you're trying to appear to be serious anyway. What non-profits do, is they put out little rah rah pieces highlighting events whenever they can, complimenting activists, welcoming newcomers, and so on.

What they don't do however, is air their dirty laundry on the org's homepage, in this case, the PDA.

We've been allies in enough previous conversations, that I'm clear that you didn't just fall off of the Turnip Truck, and you're up to speed on this stuff already.

**************

All of your tricky footwork following The Statement is pretty much meaningless, unless there's something to Mitch Gore's question.

Who wrote and posted the piece on the national website?


Pat Ryan


Clearly. (0.00 / 0)
Organizations don't send out press releases to announce controversies. That doesn't mean the controversies don't exist, or that they're not of any significance, or that they shouldn't be talked about.

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here's the entire email merklers (0.00 / 0)
read it and sleep... yawn

PDA Oregon Ramps Up Activity to Build Chapters and Promote the Progressive Challenge 2008!
January 21, 2008, Portland, OR

In Oregon, home of PDA Board member Thom Hartmann, of Air America Radio, and a strong progressive community, PDA Oregon demonstrated its commitment this weekend to mobilize PDA members throughout the state and to galvanize their energy for legislative advocacy, citizens lobbying and candidate bird-dogging and voter education on the roster of PDA priorities through Progressive Challenge 2008.

The meeting of the state's first chapter showed real growth since its inception in late 2007, bringing together this month 45 PDA members from the Portland area, including Martha Perez, an exciting young Latina activist who is running for City Council, and local students, excited about organizing. State Coordinator Liz Kimmerly explains, "The first step for PDA Oregon is for us to build chapters in congressional districts throughout the state. These chapters, working with PDA Congressional District point people, will begin to develop relationships with representatives' district offices to lobby for the PDA's Progressive Legislative Agenda, as well as to create a presence for progressives within the state Democratic party and to encourage new members from constituencies to join this effort to bring forth a progressive governing majority in U.S. Congress."

Kimmerly comes to Oregon from Los Angeles, California, where she had been active in PDA's local chapter-a powerful force in mobilizing the L.A. progressive community. Upon moving to Oregon, Kimmerly, who had seen the impact of PDA's inside-outside strategy in California's Democratic Party politics and on the streets, set about organizing PDA members in her new home state. Over several months, she participated in PDA National conference calls for New State organizing and has been forming a team with well-known progressive activist Moses Ross and others, which will be looking for leaders among the PDA base to form chapters in a wide range of Congressional Districts in Oregon.

One of the Portland chapter's first initiatives was to come out to support PDA Advisory Board Member Jeff Cohen in his tour through American cities with former U.N. weapons inspector Scott Ritter at Portland's Lincoln High School, discussing the effect of the media on the U.S. occupation of Iraq. At the event, Progressive Challenge 2008 cards with information about PDA and printed with the Progressive Agenda were distributed to the audience, who were encouraged to get involved with PDA Oregon activities.

At Saturday's Portland meeting, in addition to discussing Progressive Challenge 2008 and Oregon's upcoming presidential primary and encouraging chapter participants to join both PDA's Issue Organizing Teams and the training sessions on Congressional lobbying, chapter members reflected upon the opportunities for the PDA Portland chapter to weigh in on the 2008 campaigns, most notably the race for Oregon's Senate seat. Moses Ross apprised members of the process by which a local chapter's endorsement can be referred to the PDA National team for consideration, but the chapter membership was ambivalent about whether an endorsement vote was important. Each major candidate was represented at the meeting, but an endorsement was tabled until next month's meeting. At the February meeting, irrespective of whether the chapter chooses to vote to endorse any candidate, members will be able to engage in a full discussion with each contender about their positions on the PDA issues. That discussion will be facilitated by Moses Ross.

What was unequivocal and clear from the meeting was the energy and commitment of PDA members in Portland to work together to build and strengthen the progressive community in Oregon and to work with PDA National to obtain tools, talking points and strategies both to educate and engage Oregonians on the issues and to secure support for progressive change in Congress by incumbents as well as candidates.

All PDA members in Oregon are welcome and needed to make the PDA Oregon initiative a success. If you are interested in or have questions about the endorsement policy, please contact Moses Ross at moses[at]politicalrobocalls{dot}com. If you are interested in starting a PDA chapter in your Oregon community or in applying to become a Congressional District Point Person, please contact Liz Kimmerly at lizkimmerly[at]gmail{dot}com.

In solidarity,

Diane Shamis

National Field Coordinator

Progressive Democrats of America

diane[at]pdamerica{dot}org

845-661-3754

NOTE: If you have already unsubscribed from the list, we apologize and ask you to unsubscribe again using the unsubscribe link at the very bottom of the page.

Progressive Democrats of America is a grassroots PAC that works both inside the Democratic Party and outside in movements for peace and justice. Our goal: Extend the victory of Nov. 2006 into a permanent, progressive majority. PDA's advisory board includes seven members of Congress and activist leaders such as Tom Hayden, Medea Benjamin, Cindy Sheehan and Rev. Lennox Yearwood. More info: http://pdamerica.org

in solidarity,
-petr


[ Parent ]
Congratulations (0.00 / 0)
You proved nor resolved precisely nothing.

cheers,

Mitch Gore


[ Parent ]
what's your problem? (0.00 / 0)
i just posted it so that people who hadn't received it could read it in full.

i never claimed to be proving or resolving precisely anything. you, once again, are attributing these things to me.


[ Parent ]
Hi (0.00 / 0)
I'm not a "fawning idiot" "attack dog" "associated with, paid by, or otherwise connected to the Merkley campaign." I am not "weeping for the virtue and chastity of Oregon PDA," "concern trolling," or otherwise possessing the emotional instability or insincerity you're implying. So I thought you might be interested in listening to me.

- Kimmerly is an employee of a candidate.

- Kimmerly runs an organization considering that candidate's endorsement.

The partiality of the former position conflicts with the impartiality of the latter position. Even if it were only for appearance, she should choose which role she prefers and temporarily step down from the other. Textbook conflict of interest. It has been alleged that in her role with PDA that she alone decided the organization would endorse a senate candidate, that set up a snap endorsement meeting in violation of the rules, and that she failed to notify all members of it. Even if each of these items were completely, utterly false, the fact that she would be in a position to do these things demonstrates why one recuses oneself when one has a conflict of interest. And the fact that, after these concerns were taken up with national, they were addressed, does not solve the conflict of interest. That's a "no harm, no foul" mentality, where, as long as Party B averts disaster, Party A is not in the wrong. That's a fallacy.


why should she choose? (0.00 / 0)
She should only choose if it's a problem for one of the organizations. Surely if either saw a conflict of interest, they wouldn't support her in both roles.

I think you're right that they're false accusations. Even if she proposed the organization would endorse, that's not the same as "deciding." No violation of rules would have occured that I know of; perhaps you are confusing the NATIONAL endorsement with a local chapter's. I don't think they are the same.

The bottom line is that she's a member of both organizations, and PDA doesn't think that's a problem--even if the local chapter submits an endorsement recommendation. To continue to believe there's a conflict of interest is your perogative, but if the organization with its rep on the line has no issue with it, I have a hard time seeing why I should have an issue with it.

What you may want to ask now, is why the Merkley campaign worked so hard to make this into much more than it turns out to be.  


[ Parent ]
That doesn't make the conflict go away. (0.00 / 0)
If I'm a CEO of an oil company, and I'm also the president's point-man on energy policy, but neither the oil company nor the White House have a problem with that, the conflict of interest still exists as much as ever. I'm not trying to imply with this analogy that either PDA or Novick are acting unethically, and I regret if the choice of analogy makes it sound that way (first one that came to mind), I'm solely trying to address the logic behind your argument.

[ Parent ]
here's a better analogy for then (0.00 / 0)
if the labor leader is also an advisor to a politician, and the labor organization holds a democratic vote to determine whom they will endorse, is that a conflict of interest that is irreconcilable? as long as the process is open, and democratic, the conflict of interest is irrelevant, because there are no special interest--all iterests are equal.

in this case, the process proved itself--it is an open democratic organization, the decisions were made democratically by those present, and i think they made the right decision.


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Interesting analogy (0.00 / 0)
Would one of the Merkley supporters like to address this?

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It misses the point (0.00 / 0)
A labor leader in that situation is not a paid employee of the politician. It's an apples to oranges, bogus analogy.

Furthermore, the greatest ethical concern is not of an open and disclosed potential conflict of interests... it's of a hidden one, which is exactly what we have here. And at that it's compounded by the facts that you're already aware of (boss wanting the endorsement, etc.)


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And that is precisely the point (0.00 / 0)
Because the labor organization is being formed as the endorsement process is unfolding and the labor leader is on the paid staff of one of he candidates who can game the process so it is not clear, open and democratic is the whole point of this being an issue.

cheers,

Mitch Gore


[ Parent ]
problem (0.00 / 0)
the problem with that analogy as I see it, is that in the case of the CEO example, the best thing for both parties is a closed, secretive session. Wheras here, while you may speculate on what Kimmerlu wanted to get from it,  PDA is clearly NOT served by such an encounter. So it would obviously be in their interest to speak up for an open and clean process. The other part that doesn't seem to fit is that other voices besides the CEO's were not accepted. Here, the "opposition" was invited. They objected to part of the process, and were immediately accomodated.  

[ Parent ]
and I know you're not (0.00 / 0)
a Merkley apologist. You're concerned, clearly, but I don't see you calling for heads, talking about how disillusioned you are with Novick, or calling it the scandal of the century.

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Ethics 101 (0.00 / 0)
Here's what the national assocation is telling us:

Although we know she works for Novick for Senate, we care so little about the implications that it's not even worth mentioning.

Interesting post, torridjoe. Interesting assertion too. I see that you personally wrote it. Let's all explore the moral and ethical implications of your above-quoted assertion, shall we?

The Lie of Omission:

A lie of omission is to remain silent when ethical behavior calls for one to speak up.    A lie of omission is a method of deception and duplicity that uses the technique of simply remaining silent when speaking the truth would significantly alter the other person's capacity to make an informed decision.

To lie by omission is to remain silent and thereby withhold from someone else a vital piece (or pieces)  of information.   The silence is deceptive in that it gives a false impression to the person from whom the information was withheld.   It  subverts the truth;  it is a way to manipulate someone  into altering their behavior to suit the desire of the person who intentionally withheld the vital information;  and, most importantly, it's a gross violation of another person's right of self-determination.

Have you ever heard the word, "spin doctor?"  This is the job title for the political campaign people who intentionally speak only a part of the truth with the goal of deceiving their listeners and getting the listener to supporting the spin doctor's candidate.

What torridjoe is asserting here is that the PDA "care so little about the implications" of a gross violation of another person's right of self-determination "that it's not even worth mentioning." Simply astounding!

Since when do progressives condone the gross violation of another person's right of self-determination?

Clearly, TJ's attempted defense of Liz Kimmerly here can't possibly be reflective of the values and ideals which the overwhelming majority of PDA members hold near and dear.

Why?

Because progressives simply do not condone violating another person's right of self-determination. Period. That's the domain of conservatives, not of progressives!

And yes, that begs the question of why torridjoe would float a patently conservative defense on behalf of the Progressive Democrats of America. But that's a question that only he can answer.

As for the cited PDA statement... there can be no doubt that Liz Kimmerly's ethical failings weren't mentioned for reasons utterly unrelated to what torridjoe has claimed.

Why?

Because progressives simply do not condone violating another person's right of self-determination. Period. Why that needs to be pointed out on a blog which purports to be "progressive" is another question that torridjoe needs to answer.



so now you blame PDA? (0.00 / 0)
it sure looks like you just accused PDA of lying by omission--that their failure to see the problem you do represent deceit by silence.

Beyond that bizarre attempt to blame PDA for not being outraged like Kevin and other affiliateds like them,
you say something overheated like denying someone's right to self-determination. To which I can only ask, "what the fuck ARE you talking about?


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ok, now i feel a little bit dirty (0.00 / 0)
for having waded in the muck over there at Lue Boregon.

stoopid insomnia. lesson learned.


Why? (0.00 / 0)

I understand why a hornet's nest has been stirred up- the nest was clearly poked. I agree that it will be good to hear directly from the Novick campaign about this- and the sooner, the better.

It is worth noting, however, that outside of partisan blogs (including this one) the mainstream press has not really picked up on this story. Even the original blog post at the RG had a much different tone than the one that has been spread over the internet. Why is that? Maybe because there is not much here?

You would think by some of the posts and comments that something incredibly nefarious had taken place. Could it be because it is only nefarious if you are willing to believe the worst and are only too happy to engage in gutter politics (even better, by implying that your client/candidate is a victim of the same)? This isn't Rovian as I have heard people claim of Novick- it is absolutly Clintonian on behalf of team Merkley for being so willing to follow a thread and spin it in the worst possible way- never mind the facts.

Smith is going to be beat by focusing on the issues- issues that differentiate all Democrats from his politics. Let's get back to those issues and cut the sanctimonious bs.


FWIW, I've communicated with Liz thru PDA and she (0.00 / 0)
was quite open with me about her status with the Novick campaign.

and Merkley knows exactly who she is (5.00 / 1)
Does that campaign really think someone was planning something secret when it's signed "Liz Kimmerly?" They know who Novick's top people are, this is about as up front as it gets.

I think it's time to start wondering when the statements and explanations will come from Kari Chisholm about how his account now seems to contradict the PDA's position on her dual roles, involvement in the endorsement process, and what can or cannot happen at the local level.

Why is it the only way the Merkley team tries to make non-endorsement or fundraising news is by writing something nasty--and false--about Steve Novick? I think you have to consider the possibility that they got beat both on media image AND substantive policy (notice the continuing crickets on Steves' OTHER story the last couple days, about Merkley's mixed message on meducation), and started looking for some way to tear down the "change politician" claim that Steve is rapidly taking for his own in the broader politic. Instead of pissing on THEIR good days, one wonders if they haven't switched to pissing on Steve's.


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Support PDA (4.00 / 1)
Note that PDA is promoting its "¢hange makes CHANGE"  PDA sustainer community.  Urge all to sign up and make regular sustaining contributions.


PDA confusions (4.00 / 1)
Well, this is interesting, but not really clarifying.  

First thing I notice is that "chapter" does not have a clear meaning.  The clearest thing is that when PDA really gets things going according to its model, chapters should correspond to congressional districts.  Apparently though whatever the current "chapter" is, it isn't 1st or 3rd district, the two districts in which Portland falls.  

Then apparently there's something called PDA Oregon, which may or may not be a "chapter."  Sometimes it's referred to that way.  But then there are references to a "Portland chapter".  So is there 1) an Oregon chapter currently a.k.a. the Portland chapter; 2) two chapters, Oregon and Portland; or 3) an Oregon  PDA organization (equivalent of an organizing committee), called a chapter sometimes, imprecisely, that has recently held its first membership meeting a.k.a. chapter meeting?  The latter seems to best account for all of the bits of information about which we know.  It does seem, however, that the inferences by some that the local chapter was wholly concocted by Liz K for Novick campaign ends are wrong.  

Second thing I notice is that it looks like PDA may have a fairly f'd up endorsement process all on its own, with or without it being some sort of scam.  PDA has 2300 members in Oregon, according to one who's written on Witengonen, "at large" I suppose.  If TJ is right that the meeting Sat. could have made an endorsement rec., with just 45-50 of those members present on what seems to have been very short notice even if there was no nefarious intent behind it, it would have been a screwed up way to make an endorsement that likely would have alienated a lot of the other 2250 members.  And if TJ is right it would also make me unimpressed with the national organization.

However, Ben at Witengonen's version (i.e. from a Merkley supporter) suggests that the "ambivalence" may actually have been on Moses Ross' part.  Also, the rules Kari C. reported hearing from Jim Carpenter make sense while the ad hoc-ness reflected in this report doesn't really.  I'd be surprised if Kari were lying on that point even if one attributes the worst of motives to him (which I don't) because the actual rule would be bound to come to light.  So I still think the endorsement didn't happen because it wouldn't have followed the rules.  It does seem possible though that what Ben saw through Merkley colored glasses was less Liz K trying to push through her scheme despite all, which makes little sense, and more confusion arising from the content of the meeting notice suggesting there might be an endorsement.  Presumably an error in the notice would require correction at the meeting.  

Also my concerns (genuine, though I expect possibly to be abused for having them) are slightly eased by the report that efforts were made to solicit membership and participation at the Scott Ritter event (which did take place last Monday, at Lincoln High, a whole crew from PDX Peace went over).  In fact the young woman mentioned in the message quoted above may have been recruited at Ritter, since she is active in PDX Peace.  Or not.  

That said, the fact that PDA national is willing to live with Liz Kimmerly's conflict of interest doesn't mean it doesn't exist.  Its existence can be shown by considering the hypothetical that Liz Kimmerly did absolutely nothing ill-intended, that she was just rushing around trying to pull together a meeting as a volunteer, trying to get candidates there to impress members that it's a serious group, & sent out candidate invitations in a slapdash hurried way that unintentionally misrepresented the endorsement process.  Say that's all true.  

Now, if Liz K had no role in the Novick campaign, there would have been no Register-Guard piece or other notice.  Would there have been an endorsement?  Who knows, but one suspects not, if only because it appears Moses Ross knew the rules.  

But because Liz K has the role she does, the here-presumed simple innocent slapdash confusion looked odd to a journalist who knew her other role.  Before Kari C. or any Merkley people were involved.  It looked odd to him because it does look funky.  It looks funky because of the dual roles.  

In an interesting way it also is reflected in the choice not to identify the dual role at the Saturday meeting.  The smart move would have been to be up front about the relationship to the Novick campaign and say, "and that's why Moses Ross will handle the endorsement process."  It would have built confidence among the PDA members there that Liz K understood the potential conflict and was dealing with it.  So why didn't she, esp. since Ross is doing the job anyway?  Can't know for sure, but one suspects defensiveness around the publicity.  

Are there consequences for PDA going forward?  Hard to say.  Will pro-Merkley people be alienated & stay away?  Will some join mainly for the endorsement who don't otherwise care about PDA?  Will the chapter decide not to endorse at all because the stakes have been raised, cutting off an activity they might have done otherwise?  Any of these outcomes would be somewhat harmful, short run anyway.  

Well, waiting to see what the Novick campaign has to say, but if they don't say anything, it really does bother me & it will lead me to sit out the rest of the primary.  


thanks Chris (0.00 / 0)
you're always thoughtful, at least. I think you're generally right about the exact story with the chapters; I think there was in fact a Portland chapter made; if I had to guess it will align with Earl's district. Nothing against Wu, but most of his district is outside Portland, whereas Earl's is Portland-centric. There's nothing about creating all districts at once; the implication I get is you start where you have the best progressive base.

I also agree that the PDA process for local endorsements largely leaves it up to them. Which raises the prospect that Kimmerly could have been doing exactly what was fine by the national, but which--in haste--might have created a rush that really WOULD have raised questions about the ethics of the endorsement.

And here I think we have the crux of the scandal as Kari has built it: their position is that were it not for Merkley, this would have all gone down as a sham. That's not really clear, because it doesn't appear that the Kari Krew is right about Moses being called in after the fact. The PDA statement seems to strongly indicate that he was part of the state organization earlier on, and that the safeguarding they made from the beginning on any endorsement process was that Moses would run it. The idea that Merkley's complaints led to Moses' intercession is not supported by anyone, I don't think. (Someone could ask Moses). Now, could it have been Moses who opted to slow things down, either on his own or in response to complaints? Surely so--but that means the system worked, because the independent person was controlling the process. The conflict would only have arisen if Kimmerly had had the power or inclination to ignore Merkley's (or anyone's) complaints.

I don't think Steves got involved before Kari and Merkley did. They got involved shortly after the 14th. And if you don't think team Merkley pimped it to Steves...they did.

I think it's unwarranted for Novick to comment. There's no specific allegation of wrongdoing, and "it looks funky" just isn't a reason to validate the really, REALLY sloppy job the Merkley people did trying to gin up something on him.

I think you wrote this before Kari's source called him out; I wonder if your perspective has changed any?


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starting over again ... hey (0.00 / 0)
i had the opportunity to listen to both steve and jeff in the very early days of this campaign. i listened to both of them with an open mind and concluded that either candidate would be a wonderful alternative to that piece of shit smith. this being said, i must admit that steve sparked my interest and warmed my heart the most. it was simple really, he spoke with passion about a host of issues i felt were important. jeff spoke about the same issue but left me uninspired ... i think it was because he sounded so much like the usual politican. this is not to say i wouldnt vote for him but he didnt excite me.

now we are in the midst of a self made dust up ... progressives fighting among ourselves can only help the forces of evil as personified by senator slimeball smith. i suggest we find a way of dealing with this problem in a quick and just manner ... a resolution that all parties can agree with. one suggestion, if the merkley supporters feel so strongly about liz being involved at one level or the other with a local PDA they must agree that their consultants and stff members (like kerri chisolm) should also be excluded. personally, i would like all the current affiliated players to gracefully step back and allow the unaffiliated progressives resolve this dust up. i sincerely believe this would be the best way to get all the progressive back on the same page ... so to speak.  


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